How to Become a Doctor – Steps to Becoming a Doctor in India | Part 1 of 2 I #ChetChat

Hey, everyone welcome to the show and today the guest with me is a budding doctor He’s a final year student a Grant Medical College studying in Mumbai, Divya Parekh. Hey Divya welcome to the show, thank you, it’s good to be here Being a doctor, the way, I look at it It’s a calling, so tell me how early did you find out that this was it for you? I decided I want to be a doctor all the way back in like the third grade, wow Actually, I have an older cousin brother, who is two years elder than me, He also wanted to be a doctor and then like he made a last-minute change and he went in the engineering And you were stuck, no, but I’ve always wanted to do this I’ve loved it all the way through Wow, because I’ve heard this a lot from people that you know the ones that want to become a doctor are pretty much sure and the rest of the world is undecided Tell me you always had the choice in front of you of studying in India or Going abroad was that always a choice for you or were you very clear you wanted to study in India The thing is I was quite definite on having this doing my medicine in India because of the time difference that it makes But the mistake I actually made back then is in the 8th when you have to choose between ICSE and IGCSE I picked IGCSE which is the Cambridge one, okay, so at that point It was a hassle to convert grades into an Indian percentage okay? So you’re calling it a mistake because ideally looking back You’re saying you should have studied in the Indian whether it’s ICSE or perhaps CBSE or one of the Indian boards up to tenth grade and then continued in the Indian Boards. And because you switched to the Cambridge Board The switch back to the Indian board after 10th is where you had a challenge Yeah, so now these conversions are easily available because people do it a lot, okay And the ICSE marks come out a good like two months before IGCSE actually gives you the grade. Yes So I got lucky that there was an SSC court case going on which dragged the whole admission procedure further, okay So like I could afford to wait for my final marks and Then have them converted. So when you say the reason you chose the Indian system for the time advantage so coming back to the program That you do how long is this? MBBS undergraduation program. So the MBBS program in India after 12th is five and a half years of Of which actually four and a half years are of studying and one year is a compulsory internship that you have to do at the hospital at which you’re studying. And in comparison abroad it would be the whole pre-med and then you go to med School Which is the four and a half years [oh], so you have that big time saved? So you have like eight eight and a half years yeah If you were somewhere there if you were in the US versus five and a half when you are here, okay so what would you recommend for a student wanting to study medicine What is your strong Recommendation about apart from the time studying in India versus studying in another country. It depends on where you plan to practice after But if you’re undecided or you’re planning to practice in India then starting in India makes the most sense As I told you the time difference is already significant and also There’s a very important subject called community medicine and all the cases that you see are very endemic to India they’re very specific So the experience that you get studying in India Helps you like so much to practice in India is which is something you would not get abroad right? So there’s a different spectrum in the kind of diseases, so the bacterial diseases in India. So more infectious diseases, here, people of lower socioeconomic backgrounds compared to affluency abroad So even though it’s a five-and-a-half-year course by name of the year technically, it’s three years First Year is just a one year course where you, you’re learning normal functioning So normal structures, processes and everything in the body and you have dissections and things to do Second year is actually a year and a half and second year is Regarding what causes disease and what are the disease Processes and the drugs that counter it, and third year is two years, It’s over two years, where your first year is called third minor and the second is Called final year, and most of your like the main important stuff comes in final year crammed together So final year is easily the most hectic. Okay and which is what where you are right now, yeah just started, and And where does the internship fit in? No the internship is compulsory after you pass your final exams. And the whole point of the compulsory Internship is that They have provided you education at the government institution for a much lower cost than what others eh private institutions would So to get something back from you, you’re doing an internship as working for them for that year for very minimal, wage right, and off which some bit understand has to be in the rural areas yeah, so Generally, you should have a month and a half or two months of rural internship at a place in maharashtra Okay, this just tells me this five and a half year program and one year you’re working out now off This is this largely at the classroom, or is there sort of a practical aspect to it as well? So on the first year you have a lot of lectures But you also have a lot of practicals in the sense that you’re working with dissections and things in the lab But not at a ward in the hospital okay, but from second your onwards Which is really early you can attend the wards and you can go to the medicine department, surgery department Where, you don’t have that much to do you have like an observing role And then the two years of third year you get posted immediately to the wards, okay? and the difference in the Indian system compared to others is that we don’t really have dummies for people to learn on, so as soon as you start final year You get like immediately thrown into it like you’re a doctor everything is to be done for you You have a bed patient and it’s like kind of on you wow, so it’s really good experience That’s like a mock? you’re doing you’re doing an evaluation before the doctor really comes in yeah That’s the thing so you do the whole you take the history the examination and everything then but then the doctor comes You can explain to him your case, but then that’s your bed case you get immediately thrown into it to learn on a live patient one of the other common objections that people worry about when they have to study in India is the Possibility of Perhaps having large class sizes and less interaction with the professor’s so how does that work for you? [oh], yeah so to an extent that’s correct because that so that’s a difference in the Education system here and abroad that a lot of our classes are kind of like lectures which are a little more imposed learning compared to an open discussion but barring lectures anything where you have to practically see or do anything like dissections or Lab work or tutorials you get broken down into smaller batches of twenty Ten or twenty so there’s not as much of a problem as large groups. Which is only limited to lectures So one of the things that students tell me they find ominous about the prospect of studying in India is the challenge of clearing the entrance exams So tell us a bit about how difficult that is You have two entrance exams to give to get into medical Colleges one is the Maharashtra CET, and you have an All-India Exam which is for states from outside Maharashtra to be applicable to come to Maharashtra Colleges Okay, so CET is you give the exam at the end of your 12th right And it’s an extremely competitive exam you have students in lakhs giving the exam, and the good medical institutions here To join one of then you’d have to rank in the top 500 So it’s extremely tough so the thing is From the start you have to have made up your mind that you want to achieve that goal and you have to have picked your Subject coaching classes correctly but from halfway through the 11th till the end you have to have a good level of sustained study in To reach that level to achieve a rank, so it’s a lot of hard work. It’s a lot of work So what kind of coaching classes you have any? Recommendation there. You pick the classes based on your location actually because a lot of a lot of the thing is time management Needed get optimum work done but it’s very important to pick coaching classes which are specific to the common entrance test and not just the general 12th Standard College and Early from like, early on from the start they take weekly tests [oh], which are graded and there’s like a printout of the Marksheet. You need a parent sign and everything Tell me one more thing you said Maharashtra entrance exam does it allow anybody to apply for it? Or do you necessarily have to have lived in Maharashtra for a certain number of years? But you have to have lived in Maharashtra for a specific amount of yours they have some government specific guidelines which you have to match those criteria to be applicable for it. So for a student who’s perhaps a Parent is in a transferable job and has lived for a couple of years in different states of the country How does the MBBS entrance Exam work So there’s an all-india exam, right which As long as you’re an Indian citizen you can give so it’s not state specific and the advantage of that is that that exam is Applicable to medical colleges of all states, okay So having given that exam you have the widest range of options to go to if you are willing to move okay And there you could possibly go to than any state But if you want to be in the state that you’ve lived in for a longest period of time then it’s probably advisable to go for that state cet is how you’re saying that’s [okay], so you decided really early? But I’m looking at a high school student perhaps in grade six seven trying to decide should I go IGCSE should I study Indian Curriculum, and there’s a plethora of subjects there are combinations of subjects and all of that available So what’s your advice to that student in terms of choosing the right subjects etc oh so if you like you have to made a decision by the end of your seventh grade before the 8th standard because Not only is it really important to pick ICSE over IGCSE if you plan to study here It’s also important that given the option you have to pick all three sciences split rather than a coordinated course so the format of the common entrance test is that Every student who gives it has to give physics and chemistry I have to give it right then Those are [50/50] marks if you have 100 marks from Math Oh, we should give if you’re moving to engineering right and 100 marks for biology which you give which allows you to apply to medicine dentistry and Also, Pharmacy [ok] [ok] so the same scores of physics chemistry plus biology are used by the medicine medical Colleges, dental Colleges and pharmacy Colleges and in the pecking order the Sort of top ranked students are chosen by the medical colleges. Is that how it is yeah? Yeah, so there’s a system Where you have to submit a sheet based on your order of preference of institutions and a computer matches you But generally a much lower rank compared to medicine would allow you to get into a decent place in densitry or pharmacy because most people Would do it actually aiming towards medicine And tell me there are private colleges within say if I look at within maharashtra there are private colleges there are government colleges So do you get to choose where you want to go and how? Yeah, you get to choose some private hospitals have their own entrance test Which is separate from CET but the major difference Is that being in a government hospital, but you see a lot more patients, okay [so] in in dissection and first year you get an ample amount of Cadavers and your patient your clinical experience in the government hospital is Very good. You see a lot a lot of patients and On the flip side if you go to a private hospital you have a great teaching staff That your level of education is high, but you see much fewer patients So what would you recommend to a student if they had to choose? Generally everyone in the in the top ranks would pick a government hospital because at the end of the day Clinical experience is something that cannot be substituted You were watching part one of a two-part video series titled how to become a doctor Look out for part two where Divya Parekh talks of postgraduate studies comparison between studying in India and abroad cost comparisons the process of application whether an Indian doctor can work abroad vacations one lesson learnt future plans Social life and a fun experience

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